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Post by bonapurple on Jan 12, 2017 19:55:47 GMT
I understand that I went too far sometimes, but I think a permanant ban is unfair. I put hours of work into the server but in the end I got banned for aiming a bow at Rosie and at the last second moving it to shoot my own alt. A month or so ban is fair as I did go way too far way too often . As for when I said "ban me bitch" to Rosie, I was not trying to call her that. I was quoting a phrase used on the internet: "try me bitch" however it was wrong of me to say it and I cannot justify it. I would like to apologise to Rosie and anyone else who I annoyed/disrupted on the server, in the discord or anywhere else. I will do my best to stay out of everyones way and play on the server more peacefully if my ban is reduced.I was very active on the server and I loved playing on it as it has a great community and is just generally a great vanilla server. I tried to help other server member with materials or information/help abot the server when I could. I helped build much of the nether hub and I gathered and donated a lot of quartz for the church at spawn and I think I generally helped the server much more than I disrupted it. I'm sorry for what I did and I hope you can understand what I am trying to say. Thank you.
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Post by crownedpanda on Jan 12, 2017 22:19:37 GMT
Okay heres how i perosnally see it take at as you will But No you should be perma banned in my opinion because as you said you went way to far way to often and you may have been quoting a thing on the internet but it still was a idiotic move to say ban me bitch even as a joke when you clearly should not have been mouthy i see you as someone with a mentality that will always get you in trouble with us if you are trying to or not You got banned for being annoying and so it shows you were more often then not annoying to a vast majority regardless of your "hard work" i say you shouldnt be unbanned and you should remember this for later. so you dont end up doing these things other places my main problem with temp bans and cool down periods is it doesnt feel like they have had a punishment yes they dont get to play at all during that time but they still come back to the things they did have with perma they lose everything feel bad and learn that they shouldnt do anything like that again ( litlle side opinion also take as you will if a temp is stupidly decided on maybe a solution is full wipe him? Since well a short ban but a fresh start ? I dont know i feel the perma was just )
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Post by Rosie on Jan 12, 2017 23:52:48 GMT
The only reason I'm saying no is because I had been asking you time after time to stop, and you never took me seriously. I'm sorry but you should have listened to me instead of pushing me to my limits.
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Post by mac1 on Jan 13, 2017 6:17:27 GMT
I voted for a temporary ban. Bona was an extremely active person on this server, I think banning him would be a mistake. If what he says is true and he does want to return peacefully, then we regain an active player. If he decides to go and take revenge on Rosie for banning him and grief (which i personally doubt but it is possible), then we would do a small rollback and perma ban. I think giving him a second chance is worth it since there isn't much to lose. If he acts up, he has no room to make an appeal because he had a second chance. I may be biased because he never annoying me personally, but that's how i see the situation
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Post by crownedpanda on Jan 13, 2017 8:21:19 GMT
My only problem with the temp ban votes is Did bona really get punished or even learn anything from this like yea ooh they dont getta play for a week or two so? They didnt lose anything other then time but they off enjoying them selves im the kinda person who believes in harsh punishment so they learn to never do it again. Like go ahead and make it a temp ban just make 100% sure that they wont do anything stupid again. Though im not really a active person so dont take my words to heart.
people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true... that is how they define reality. But what does it mean to be correct or true? Merely vague concepts... their reality may all be an illusion.
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Post by futuregame on Jan 13, 2017 9:32:41 GMT
My only problem with the temp ban votes is Did bona really get punished or even learn anything from this like yea ooh they dont getta play for a week or two so? They didnt lose anything other then time but they off enjoying them selves im the kinda person who believes in harsh punishment so they learn to never do it again. Like go ahead and make it a temp ban just make 100% sure that they wont do anything stupid again. Though im not really a active person so dont take my words to heart. well on other servers they also ban people who hack for only a week to a month. But lets not transfer that to here since in my opinion hackers and griefers should be banned forever and also ip ban em aswell. But bona didnt do any of that and just crossed the deadline by a lot. I know that he is a rly helpfull player since hes been helping with the hub whenever he could and probably helped a few more people. So I would say we make it a temp ban and after that if he crosses the line again it will be a perma ban.
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Post by crownedpanda on Jan 13, 2017 12:32:19 GMT
My only problem with the temp ban votes is Did bona really get punished or even learn anything from this like yea ooh they dont getta play for a week or two so? They didnt lose anything other then time but they off enjoying them selves im the kinda person who believes in harsh punishment so they learn to never do it again. Like go ahead and make it a temp ban just make 100% sure that they wont do anything stupid again. Though im not really a active person so dont take my words to heart. well on other servers they also ban people who hack for only a week to a month. But lets not transfer that to here since in my opinion hackers and griefers should be banned forever and also ip ban em aswell. But bona didnt do any of that and just crossed the deadline by a lot. I know that he is a rly helpfull player since hes been helping with the hub whenever he could and probably helped a few more people. So I would say we make it a temp ban and after that if he crosses the line again it will be a perma ban. I get that they are helpful and not as bad as it could get like i said my opinion is just a temp ban saying hey you cant play for a coupled days/weeks isnt all that punishing imo I just say that there should be more of a punishment or a stupidly strict policy that even the littlest screw up gets you perma banned But hey im not staff nor am i all knowing I just sorta disagree with the idea of temp bans i feel they are meaningless in the sense of "punishment " i get appealing a perma ban and either being accepted back or not mind it with a good punishment.
people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true... that is how they define reality. But what does it mean to be correct or true? Merely vague concepts... their reality may all be an illusion.
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Post by silvercat18 on Jan 13, 2017 18:19:25 GMT
I vote for a temporary ban. I feel that permanent bans should only be brought into play for acts of extreme griefing or repeated disharmony after a temporary ban. At least that way, if there is some unfortunately bust-up and hot-tempers, there is a second chance to cool things down.
A good few actual troublemakers would likely clear off after a temporary ban anyway, but at least they have the chance to make good.
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Post by mac1 on Jan 13, 2017 20:27:21 GMT
Bonapurple seemed to do 2 'crimes' on the server: verbal abuse and physical abuse. Verbal ex: "ban me bitch" and other name calling. Physical: Pushing Rosie off buildings while AFK and shooting people with bows. I don't think the verbal abuse should be counted against him. I never noticed him talk that way to anyone except Rosie, who can have a foul mouth herself. There are no rules against that language on the server, so why should bonapurple be held accountable for it? Example of Rosie's language: The only question remains whether the physical stuff he did is worth a perma ban. He pushed Rosie a few times who I personally think overreacts sometimes (Like in above screenshot). He shot a few people with bow, me included. It didn't kill me, I ate a chicken and recovered. That was the end of it. If this was how a new player acted, i would agree with a perma ban. But bona has been here a while, the good out weighs the bad
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Post by mac1 on Jan 13, 2017 20:30:14 GMT
Screenshot didn't insert, here it is
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Post by Rosie on Jan 13, 2017 22:46:28 GMT
Screenshot didn't insert, here it is Yeah, he insulted a part of my skin that actually took me a while to make. The only times I would cuss at Bona, or be rude to him, was when he was pushing or shooting me off of my building. He wasn't banned because of calling me a bitch, that was just the cherry on the cake. No he was banned because he didn't listen to me after I asked him more than once to stop what he was doing. It was like I was dealing with a child that didn't know what no meant. Yeah a perm ban is a bit much for the little things he did, so how about a ban that lasts until the next map reset?
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Post by Rosie on Jan 14, 2017 4:42:21 GMT
Yeah, he insulted a part of my skin that actually took me a while to make. The only times I would cuss at Bona, or be rude to him, was when he was pushing or shooting me off of my building. He wasn't banned because of calling me a bitch, that was just the cherry on the cake. No he was banned because he didn't listen to me after I asked him more than once to stop what he was doing. It was like I was dealing with a child that didn't know what no meant. Yeah a perm ban is a bit much for the little things he did, so how about a ban that lasts until the next map reset? Rosie, I am not in that screenshot. I never insulted your skin in any way or said that you didn't put time or effort into it. If you thought that I was trying to insult you I am sorry. I can't think of a time when I ever mentioned your skin or anybody else's skin and I'm sorry that I did not compliment it. My intention was not to insult you in at all. I just simply did not realise that I was being so rude and ignorant. I like your skin but I guess I was too lazy to say anything and I'm sorry about that. I know you put effort into it and my intention was not to insult you. Bona that screenshot had nothing to do with you, it was Mac's way of proving that I cuss at people a lot. Opei had made a comment about how my hair had looked like a watermelon, so then I called him an asshole.
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Post by crownedpanda on Jan 14, 2017 5:41:26 GMT
So in theory a map reset isnt for at least another 6 - 8 months in that time much can happen and bona may not want to come back i feel thats a decent punishment so as long as we are not receting any time soon
people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true... that is how they define reality. But what does it mean to be correct or true? Merely vague concepts... their reality may all be an illusion.
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Post by hazy on Jan 14, 2017 8:59:40 GMT
This conversation should have probably taken place before he was banned. Just saying...
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Post by Specalios on Jan 14, 2017 16:08:10 GMT
It looks like most people would prefer for a temporary ban. I've suggested to a few people that Bonapurple could be temporarily banned until the map resets. However, a map reset is not likely for several months at the very least, so it may be more preferable to have a temporary ban for a several weeks instead. That's just what I think.
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