Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 0:44:34 GMT
So Kryptic is pretty salty about competition Who is right? (Please vote )
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Post by oohKryptic on Sept 20, 2016 2:35:25 GMT
So even though I had the ORIGINAL idea of making an Enchanted Book Store, and made the store, they get to make the terms of this agreement. They get to force me to agree to their terms, or else they're going to cause issues with my store. I don't understand why I can't have a say on this when this store idea was mine. No one else has voiced any disagreement on the price of my books, except Hyper and Last_Stand.
EDIT: Though I would like to be the only one to SELL Enchanted books, I'm not stopping anyone from getting their own books. I just wanted to make a shop for those who can't get them themselves or don't want to. It sounds greedy, but it would just cause issues to have 2 shops for an item like this. Who do they buy from if the prices are the same? If someone lowers prices, they get more business. Then the other shop can lower prices, then it creates a loop. That loop is unnecessary and I don't want that to happen. I just want people to see that I'm not in this for the diamonds, but to be part of the community. I'd lower the prices if that's what everyone wants. I don't need the diamonds, I just like to be paid in return for the work I put into my Shop.
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 3:10:54 GMT
So in. My opinion i feel in this case kryptic you are taking it to "personal" even though yes you did make the shop first and yes you "may" have come up with the idea first. But you are forgetting you are running a buisness so in terms there is going to be compititions on pricing and people foricing you to be angry and in a place that makes your time feel wasted. Thats the whole point of competing buisnesses someone doesnt like your prices or the quality of what you sell they have the right to then make a shop that competes with yours selling their stock for a lower price. Thats how an economy works so in all honesty regardless if you want to get all pissed off about it is what a "shop" or a buisness is about competition and making money. Yea i get you dont like the idea but in all fairness i was planning to make a enchant shop before i came up with my black market shady shop idea i sell ANY AND EVERY item apon request because i love the competition in buisnesses and sorry if you dont like dont try to make a shop or a buisness. Rosie said earlier its "rude" to undermine someone else but thats how it works and if you start to take away the freedom of making competition for other shops then you are getting rid of 80% of the fun in my opinion ( little side note and my whole shop ) Tldr: competition is apart of buisnes and economy get ridof it you get rid of the fun and if you are easily frustrated from competition its not a thing you should really take part in. Annyways this is my opinion on the matter i really dont care i dont need the shops i enjoy the idea of competition and people selling things.
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Post by oohKryptic on Sept 20, 2016 3:18:23 GMT
I get what you're saying Panda, it's just we can compete to the point where we have the books being sold for far too cheap to make up for the work we put into the books. (Then it becomes a game of who can have the lower price, which I don't want to happen because it will become far too low) I need to have something substantial in return for my work because it takes up a lot of time.
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 3:34:38 GMT
I also understand your point but it comes to a point where the argument is no longer fair since if they cant set up a competing shop everyone will fight to say no one can so i get you dont want your effort to be under valued but in all honesty you should just try to make a mutual agreement on the lowest you should go to a point where it who can put stock out the fastest so maybe you get it to where 5 diamonds per mending book is the lowest then you sell out they go to hypers shop then he sells out and they go to yours so on so forth it becomes a game of whom can supply the most till no one wants any
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Post by oohKryptic on Sept 20, 2016 3:42:32 GMT
I'd love it if others can help us come to an agreement. I'd wouldn't be against combining shops or whatnot, it's just that I'd still have to be making enough per book split between the 3 of us for it to work. They didn't agree on 8 per book, me making 4 of the 8 and them splitting the other 4, even though I can supply more books. Maybe 7 per book and I make 3 and they get 2 each, that seems fair to me since I produce more books. If anyone else other than me, Hyper, or Last_Stand has an idea, please share it here. I'm off to bed, goodnight.
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 3:52:02 GMT
Okay so if you do 8 per book its 4 you 4 them but since its two of them they have to split it. In that case sell it for 9 tes price goes up and its not a bad price for now you each get 3 and its evenly split. Unless you want to make it the person whom puts in most stock gets a majority share of the money then make it cheaper and 8 thats a 50/50 between both companies and the "other" company has to split theirs two ways Personally thats what i can come up with if you join forces if not as i said prior think of a minimum sale price and the play the game of who can put out the most stock.
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Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 3:53:37 GMT
Hold up- i made an agreement where we would stay at the same price and ask each other before changing it- addressing this issue- and then you say WE CAN ONLY SELL MENDING BOOKS!!!! How is this fair? Ill accept a deal where we don't change prices of our stuff, but ill sell what i want to sell.
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Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 3:54:55 GMT
also the split isnt quite fair as our group has 2 people
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Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 3:55:54 GMT
Also we have a whole village of 6 librarians each with 3 enchanted book trades. The whole point of you supply more so you get more is complete bs.
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 4:00:53 GMT
Hyper i never siad only mending books im usuig it as an example and with 9 diamonds for a book it is an equal split 3 per person. Also this problem is your fault aswell for not compromising at all since you have 2 people you will not get equal shares with out a REALLY high price if you combined and agreeing apon a price is a good idea aslong as you are reasonable doing so not being extremely stubborn about certain things since a 3 person group made of two companies and one is made of 2 and the other is 1 and expecting equal shares but low prices is ridiculous you split it 50/50 and your company just has to split it again thats how it should be unless as i said you do a price of 9 which isnt high but also not low.
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 4:02:39 GMT
Its not bs those who can supply and item in bulk and quicker deserves the more money but because you dont have equal equipment you cant also put out the same emount you shoudlnt get the same in the end.
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Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 4:04:19 GMT
Iv negotiated higher prices for the books- he refuses His shares are always ridiculous- (2 Diams for us) The best idea it this point: We agree to sell the books at the same prices getting equal shares between us (He refuses this) We stay separate companies (He gets super salty)
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Post by Hypersynergy on Sept 20, 2016 4:07:28 GMT
At this point i'm done negotiation. We can set our own price. We can sell what we want. If you cant man up and take the fact you'll have a little bit of competition, grow up and go home. That's all Deals done No more bs Easy pz -Hypersynergy
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Post by crownedpanda on Sept 20, 2016 4:12:30 GMT
All im gonna say now is either use my idea #1 combined and sell the mending for 9diamonds per split it 3 ways Or #2 stay seperate competing companies but have a "minimum" sale prices to not undercut eachother A random #3 Sell for an extremely high price so you can all seperate it fairly but get barely any customers Anyways just keep open minds and try to work this out and not ruin shit for others
people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true... that is how they define reality. But what does it mean to be correct or true? Merely vague concepts... their reality may all be an illusion.
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